“When listening is happening, you’ve never heard this before, and we’ve never met before. It’s brand new, right now. So there’s this aliveness, this vibrancy of being. That’s the freshness, the innocence of pure consciousness — always learning new things and becoming more sensitive, and totally, totally ok with being human, because the illusion of perfection has completely dropped away.” Recorded 10/24/2011 in San Francisco.